I thought about listing you, but you had posted something a few days ago, so technically you aren't gone
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I thought about listing you, but you had posted something a few days ago, so technically you aren't gone
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">Originally posted by Mitsuki:
Didja miss meh? [img]wink.gif[/img] </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
Is odd not to see your posts... but... does happen anything in your hands?, you don't write correctly! ^^ [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
I'm still lurking. Just that I lost interest with this place when it became the Xenogearanaboard instead of the Granaboard. And after more and more Hentai was added to the site and after Wiseman threatened to ban me I just decided, hey, I got soulcalibur.com and Shoryuken.com so whatever right?
---B.j.
Hentai? There's almost no hentai here.... 1 topic that actually is usually perverted...
There's like 3 or 4 Xeno topics, not very many considering...
IRT BJ:
1. This is not a topic-oriented message board. You are free to create threads talking about whichever game you like.
2. There's little to none hentai in the board. Hentai art in the Granaboard website is properly marked, so if you don't like it, don't see/read it, or better than that, make your own non-hentai art, for example, in form of articles for the section you asked for and I added a long time ago.
3. I never threatened to ban you. I was talking about official warnings which were never issued, and it was related to a majorly disgusting link you posted that broke the Granaboard Rules & Regulations and I modded a long time ago. I really had no other choice as this was like the 4th link of yours I had to mod and it was really disgusting; but I'm honest when I say I would hate to have to take any action against a Grandia II board vet I respect. I'm not even mad at you or anything; otherwise I wouldn't have listed you in the list of missing people.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">Originally posted by -Wiseman-:
IRT BJ:
1. This is not a topic-oriented message board. You are free to create threads talking about whichever game you like.
2. There's little to none hentai in the board. Hentai art in the Granaboard website is properly marked, so if you don't like it, don't see/read it, or better than that, make your own non-hentai art, for example, in form of articles for the section you asked for and I added a long time ago.
3. I never threatened to ban you. I was talking about official warnings which were never issued, and it was related to a majorly disgusting link you posted that broke the Granaboard Rules & Regulations and I modded a long time ago. I really had no other choice as this was like the 4th link of yours I had to mod and it was really disgusting; but I'm honest when I say I would hate to have to take any action against a Grandia II board vet I respect. I'm not even mad at you or anything; otherwise I wouldn't have listed you in the list of missing people.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
What does IRT mean anyways?
1. I know you're free to talk about what ever games you like it's just that I've never been particularly fond of X Gears (yes I have played it enough to assess it) and every one jumping on the Xeno Saga band wagon, well, I don't know what to say about that. Seemed like we used to be all about the under dog RPG's and all of a sudden eveyr one was jocking on the of the biggest RPGs around. Just changed the feel of the board.
2. Oh yeah, the article section, well, if you want to keep that up you can. I was hoping it'd take off better than it did. I guess I could've put more effort into it and if you all want me to write more articles I can, well, fuck that I'll go ahead and write some stories of me during my Soul Calibur 2 hey days. But the decision to keep it is ultimately yours.
3. You said,
"Don't ever post animal brutality contents again. I won't be this lenient next time - violence towards animals is something I won't tolerate, not even a bit."
I took that as a threat of banning. What I found odd is that you have no problem making a site with Hentai and mess. board with topics that are rather coarse in subject, but I post a few things I think are funny and they aren't allowed. Yes, it was a joke, was it a bad, dirty joke, yes. I figured every one would see the humor of it but I guess I was wrong. I don't understand why the link I posted was so wrong. And since I, some one who's been in this circle of people for as long as any one can remember, I found it to be a message of unwelcomeness since you'd tell me things like that after all we've been thru. If things aren't that way and I am welcome after a message like that then I suppose I can come back and be a productive member of the board once again.
---B.j.
And remember, pretty much every RPG you've played has Animal Brutality.
Naaw, don't feel like that, it has happened me at least once... I guess that i was just a joke like all those which people sends and receive in the Internet (never saw it...), maybe that Wiseman saw it offensive and according to his own rules, it was subject of moderation.
I also understand that Wiseman didn't saw any serious offense to animals, there are much more disturbing images out there, so, i guess that because of that, he didn't warned you seriously, I've seen him warning people seriously, believe me.
Our Xeno Mania is one of our typical illness, i guess, but it is true, lately this looked much more like XenoBoard than any other thing... (or should i say "ZoharBoard"? [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) thoug, i'm not complaining about it. I like the Xenogears looking (just see my avatar...)
I PERSONALLY never have posted direct links to hentai art here in the board, so, as for me, you will never see any of them in my posts. I like hentai, and i do it. You can add much more other contents that are not there, such as... dunno... fanfics, theories, etc, etc, etc. And Wiseman also don't have direct links to Hentai art in his pages, there is always a warning page before you can see anything (i bet it is the most visited, after the Show.html page [img]tongue.gif[/img] )
This board is a comunity of friends, nobody is forced to post, for instance, i've seen WC3 threads in which i never did a post. There are much more topics in this board, so, if you don't see any interesting, you aren't forced to make a post on them [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] .
And IRT means "In Reply To", it was a shortcut for the quoting, instead of quoting a whole post, we say "IRT Delyoto Roo" for example, and everybody knows what are we refering to. It was a measure that we adopted at the begining of this granaboard, because of its extremely slow speed... Now, it works fine! ^^
So, keep lurking here, to share your opinions, and, why not, your random insanities also... i say it as a cordial invitation ^^ [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
And Er... Replying that "in every RPG you've played there is "Animal Brutality"
The enemies you slay on every RPG are undoubtly based on real life animals most of the times, but, they aren't real animals. To begin with, most of the times, they are disproportionedly big, have odd colours, or extra wings, for instance.
Other times, they are mythological, or nonexistant, such as Pegasus, Dragons, Tiamats, Tyrannosaurus Rex and the like.
And other times, they are directly invented. Aliens, Facehuggers (those aren't RPG, but you understand what i mean, right?)
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 25, 2003 04:41 AM: Message edited by: melfice ]</font>
IRT BJ: Some use IRT (In Reply To) instead of quoting most of the time to save speed (it's not a rule or anything).
1. Xenosaga is popular because of good marketing on Namco's part, but Xenogears wasn't too popular because it was from a company that devoted its budget to FF, so it's kind of an underground RPG as well, besides, it's very controversial. In any case, I don't think the feel of the board changed much, we like good games, that's the simple rule. We still don't succumb to hype, we don't like Xenosaga because of that, I'm 100% sure of this.
2. I'm keeping the articles section, and I'm not asking you to write more or anything, just do as you wish; I was just pointing out that I have your opinions and wishes in mind.
3. Nope, the usual GB proceeding is post deletion => official warning => ban, unless the violation is really too serious. You are not unwelcome or anything; unwelcomed people is already banned. You are still a G2GFAQs/Granaboard respected and welcomed vet.
I have to go now, but I'll post more on the hentai vs. violence thing later. See you!
I'd like to point to begin that Violence and Hentai must never be mixed! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
On hentai vs. violence:
I still don't know why you find that bad or disgusting; after all, it's something so natural. All adults have sex, it's fun, it doesn't hurt anyone (normally), and it's Nature's way of life and evolution. What it's not natural is animal brutality, violence, gore... you don't need any of that to survive, plus it's not fun, it hurts innocent beings, and it's not good for anything. So I think it's pretty obvious why one is allowed and the other isn't.
Moreover, I happen to be an animal lover, and I do what I can to fight against these kind of things.
I don't understand some people, there's nothing wrong with sex, it's violence what it's usually evil; how is possible that some think a guy cutting other's throat in a movie is ok but if they see a naked body it's wrong, it's to be censored, and we're all going to hell for seeing that impure thing?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">Originally posted by -Wiseman-:
On hentai vs. violence:
I still don't know why you find that bad or disgusting; after all, it's something so natural. All adults have sex, it's fun, it doesn't hurt anyone (normally), and it's Nature's way of life and evolution. What it's not natural is animal brutality, violence, gore... you don't need any of that to survive, plus it's not fun, it hurts innocent beings, and it's not good for anything. So I think it's pretty obvious why one is allowed and the other isn't.
Moreover, I happen to be an animal lover, and I do what I can to fight against these kind of things.
I don't understand some people, there's nothing wrong with sex, it's violence what it's usually evil; how is possible that some think a guy cutting other's throat in a movie is ok but if they see a naked body it's wrong, it's to be censored, and we're all going to hell for seeing that impure thing?</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree that sex is not as bad as violence. The beef I have with the Hentai is that we're a gaming board/site/whatever NOT a hand drawn porn site. To me it just degrades the wholesomeness of the site.
Mmmm... i think just the oposite. A fansite dedicated to Grandia II should contain EVERYTHING Grandia II related stuff, even if it is Hentai.
Hentai is one of the Manga subgenres, and i think it should be included also when it comes to make a fansite, because it is fanwork done by artists who indeed like Grandia II. According to my own experience, i'd never draw hentai about a character i didn't like, so, Hentai art is just a proof of your like for that game/story.
And because of that it should be included, for it is fanwork.
Not obstant, much people find hentai offensive, i have nothing against them, and i respect their opinion, so, there is a warning signal before you can see it. But as Wiseman says, it should not be forbidden as something dirty and depraved.
IRT BJ:
I agree that sex is not as bad as violence.
I think sex is not bad, to begin with.
The beef I have with the Hentai is that we're a gaming board/site/whatever NOT a hand drawn porn site. To me it just degrades the wholesomeness of the site.
One of the things the Granaboard hosts is fanart. It'll host all forms of visual and written Grandia II-related art as long as they aren't disgusting or offensive. I think it would be pointless to disallow a particular form of art and expression, especially considering this is the only Grandia II site which hosts it.
For example: Would you consider this piece of art hand-made porn? And this one yaoi hardcore?
(Both are European paintings, the first is "The Toilet of Venus", by Annibale Carracci, 1605, Italy; the second is "The Creation of Adam", by Michelangelo, 1510, Italy. From www.windows.ucar.edu.)
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And WRT posting at the Granaboard, can we say you're back in action? [img]smile.gif[/img] You know you are welcome.
I'd like to comment that those are somewhat forced examples for what you say Hentai ("the naked Beauty" (Of Goya) is better in that meaning)
I mean, there are two versions, "the dressed beauty" and "the naked beauty". Why Goya Painted the naked beauty having the dressed one? what was he thingking when he painted it?
*Hopes Bj stays to talk about Wind Waker*
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">Originally posted by -Wiseman-:
For example: Would you consider this piece of art hand-made porn? And this one yaoi hardcore?
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Exactly what I was thinking.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">Originally posted by Xellos:
*Hopes Bj stays to talk about Wind Waker*</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dude I just got the game today it's hella tight.
Anyways, Wiseman, that classical art is fine, it's art, I'm not against nudity. I'm against pics of women masturbating and involved in Lesbian acts (no matter how much the cave man in me thinks those are cool [img]biggrin.gif[/img] ). That isn't needed on a game site. I'm not against Fan Art in general but I draw the line at what most would consider bad taste.
---B.j.
Are you doing a bad comment about it? :: Cracks knucles:: >/ ( [img]tongue.gif[/img] )
Precisely, that is fanart in its most pure essence. I'd never draw that (i feel identified in that sentence, sorry [img]smile.gif[/img] ) if i didn't liked it, also, i'd not feel offended if i found something like that in a fansite. It is conveniently marked, if you don't want to see it, you don't HAVE to. I think that all kind of art, as far it is not very disturbing or bizarre, is nice, for example, i'm still waiting to see Yaoi art about G2. I haven't found any at all the internet (and No, i'm not going to start doing it, the caveman inside is liberal, but not so liberal [img]tongue.gif[/img] ...)
Right, there's a simple reason why violence is accepted and sex is not. It all goes back to Jesus.
Through out the bible, Jesus did bleed at some point and was killed in a brutal way. However, he never engaged in sexaral acts, not even his parents did (which pretty much destroys the laws of physics and nature). Because of this, people are numbed to the greater evil of violence, and draw their attentions to sex. All because there is no mention that one guy who could turn water to wine(hmm... that would explain why alcohol is legal) had sex.
How ironic. The bible is the root of all evil.
ya violence bad, porn good*continues searching for malik & bakura hentai*
like my new board name?
You're Kitsune right?
I wish you would stick to one board name...
i keep forgetting my goddamn password but i saved it somewhere this time
Well, stay here this time. We can always use more people here.
i've been on shadow of a hedgehog for a while(as the only person who talks in third person)
IRT BJ: My and others' concepts of bad taste differ. I'm glad this is not needed in the standard game site - I want this to be special; I'm hosting Grandia II artwork nobody else is bold enough to host, and I'm proud of it [img]smile.gif[/img] . Besides, if it weren't for the Granaboard, this art would never see the light, and people wanting this kind of stuff wouldn't be able to fulfill their wishes.
IRT OCB: LOL @ Bible stuff, I guess you're right.
IRT IDLR: LOL, welcome back
Wow... I'm away for about 2 weeks and still not declared AWOL! lol Ah well...
It takes morethan 2 weeks to get someone lost here
In the Kabbalah there is, can be found, an explanation of why mastubation is bad, for example... (I warn, IT IS sexist... and HAS NOTHING TO SEE WITH N.G.EVANGELION, this text is taken from an argetinian psychoanalist work)
It is said that Adan, and his first wife, Lilith, never had peace being one with the other. When Adan wanted to sleep with her, she argued that the position she had to addopt was offensive to her, and that she would not admit it. then, summoning the name of God, she had grown wings, and flied away from Adan to the Red Sea. In the Red Sea lived lots of Lascivous demons who made her to have lots of demonic Children, the Lilims, As punishment for this betrayal to Adan, Jehova (God) would make die 100 of her children each passing day...
The point is: The Lilims, these demons appear in dreams to young ones, to make them ejaculate, because of that, masturbation was considered an evil sign.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 31, 2003 04:19 AM: Message edited by: melfice ]</font>
IRT Melfice: Shall I remind you that any means of sexism are strictly forbidden in the Granaboard? That post borders moderation, and I didn't delete it because it's not a story of yours but part of the bible, and I think you don't agree with that/make fun of it. But please, avoid posting sexist stuff (unless it's to criticize sexists, that is [img]smile.gif[/img] ). Sexism is something I hate with a passion, and I think most, if not all the Granaboard members do as well.
As for the story, it's the typical bible bullshit. I knew about these type of demons, which are also called succubus (Morrigan/Darkstalkers is a good example of one of these). Lots of things are wrong there:
1. If she found something offensive, I bet she had her reasons. That god should've respected her, but he punished her like if she were some sort of personal object of Adam. However, since man created god in his image, the church made him sexist.
2. Why would the girl go away and make out with demons? That doesn't make any sense.
3. I don't see the point, what does mansturbation have to do with this?
4. If the succubus make guys come, then it'll be best to mansturbate before going to sleep - demons will have less to take later on.
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"Hey, don't diss mansturbation. It's sex with someone I love." - Woody Allen
Er... that's DEFINETLY not the from the Christian bible...
It is not? Are you sure? Then I retire everything about the bible I said in my earlier post. I'm honest when it comes to bashing, and I have plenty of reasons to bash the bible for, so I'm not going to do it unfairly. Direct whatever I said in my previous post towards the book where that was written.
I know it's not from our bible, I've heard the story (because of NGE Lilith and Adam), but it's defiently not in Christian bibles
Mel said it was from the Kabbalah; not the Bible.
IRT Wiseman: Because of that i warned that it was sexist. I'd not feel mad at you if you had modded it, i also know the rules. Sexism is a bad thing indeed, and because of that, i marked it as sexist, to enhance the mistake it is. but i also found it as an interesting paragraph that could show how religious texts bans "non standards" (and sometimes, even standard) sexual behaviors.
Yeah, it is not from the christian bibble. It is from the Kabbala as Nevan remarked, and as i said.
If Lilith was a guy, you wouldn't find it sexist...
Don't get me wrong, i don't support Sexism at all. It's just that, you guys are being so anti-sexist towards women that you're being sexist to men.
btw, i agree that article is bullshit.
Oh, you had said it in your post; for some reason I got the wrong idea it was from the bible after reading it. Anyways, screw that kabalah(sp?) book.
IRT OCB: Interesting. I always try to be fair and I hate both types of sexism, so I'll be careful about the other way as well.
the trouble is that "male sexism" is very odd... precisely because the "female sexism" is what is installed in this society. Both of them are equal bad, and should be erradicated.
Yeah, both suck. Fortunately, we're getting rid of it in the civilized world (read: not muslim, and excluding a other non-muslim few countries as well). We can thank religions for most sexism, BTW.
Most religions at least. There are a few out there which are nice and friendly to everyone, e.g. Buddhism, Wicca, and possible some others.
Glad you understood my point on "Male Sexism".
Yeah, Sexism is indeed very related to religions, in the Kabbalah also, for example, there is another proof of this, it is about the origin of men and women... but i won't post it, or i'd be modded for sure [img]smile.gif[/img]